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[Tim C.]

I emailed 'shlmbyshua at peoplepc.com' off-list regarding the trim rule.

-Tim C.

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From: <shlmbyshua at peoplepc.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [CR] CRON on $3 a day food stamp budget ?


Appreciate this article, Conrad. It would be very interesting to see the
results of experienced Cronies trying something like this. Another
insightful article presented by Miles Rose recently was yet another
indication that it is very difficult for the poor to get enough nutritious
food within the parameters of their food budget. The question begs to be
answered: "How is it that today the people with the least amount of money to
spend on food are the ones most likely to be overweight?"
It's about time everyone, not just the politicians and agri-business execs,
woke up to the fact that as a nation, we're "junk-fooding" ourselves into
disability and early death. Hats off to Governor Ted Kulongoski. Most
politicians find themselves in a rather insular lifestyle and lose sight of
just how much the working poor are struggling. He's at least making an
effort to understand these vital issues. Just as importantly, those on a
limited budget, such as myself, also need to wake up to the fact of our own
self-responsibility and the consequences of our own choices regardless of
our surroundings and circumstances.
Granted, much of the onus is on the US big agri-businesses, but a high
percentage is also upon the US consumer--for we're the ones they ultimately
make much of their profits from. Maybe If enough consumers and the
politicians who represent them demand higher nutrition, higher quality
food--one would hope they'll get on board--the sooner the better!
-------Original Message-------

From: CONRAD ROLAND
Date: 05/02/07 06:06:58
To: The CR Society Main Discussion List
Subject: [CR] CRON on $3 a day food stamp budget ?

Our practicing of CR with ON may also be viewed as a social experiment that
could have enormous implications for national health and health care
problems in the coming decades, as a result of overweight and obesity,
diabetes and other nutrition related issues. That's the way I like to look
at it - beyond the personal desire to stay healthy during old age and,
perhaps, prolong my life by a substantial number of years. In view of the
growing health care crisis I think all of us, who are learning how to live a
healthier life through CR + ON, have an *obligation* to apply our knowledge
to ourselves and to educate others about the great benefits of  CRON.

But how could you possibly do CRON on $3 a day, or even on $5/day ?
Has anybody ever tried to do CRON on a really low budget ($21/week),
short of frequent fasting, and still get at least 80-90% of the
micronutrients, healthy fats and sufficient protein ? So that's the
challenge to the smartest, most experienced CRONers.

Quote from the article below:

"I was hungry all the time, but I gained three pounds because of all those
empty calories," she said.

  New Appreciation for Working Poor
  By Harry Esteve
  The Oregonian
  Saturday 28 April 2007

Food stamps - Gov. Ted Kulongoski gets the nation's attention by eating on
$3 a day.

    Salem - Midway through his pledge to eat for a week on a food-stamp
budget, Gov. Ted Kulongoski found himself at dinner with his wife, Mary
Oberst, facing a hot bowl of - something.

    "I asked her what it was, and she called it chicken chowder," the
governor said Friday. He ate it without complaint.

    Kulongoski said the "food-stamp challenge," which ends Sunday night, has
given him new insight into the plight of the working poor and just how
stressful and time-consuming it can be to lay in groceries that are
nutritious, much less tasty.

    The low-income diet, which commemorates Hunger Awareness Week, also may
go down as one of his most successful publicity moves.

    Kulongoski's decision to limit his food spending to $3 a day - a first
for a U.S. governor - has been chronicled by CNN, ABC and CBS, along with
local news media. A New York Times reporter was working on the story Friday.

    "I never had any idea it was going to take off like this," Kulongoski
said during a round-table assessment of the challenge. "I thought it was
going to be one of those things that I would do and no one would notice."

    Meant to call attention to the benefits of food stamps, Kulongoski's
highly public shopping trip and open-book menu stoked an outpouring of
response. Some praised him for making the effort to see what it's like to
live on a shoestring budget. Others panned his choices, saying he was
sending the wrong message about what kind of food to buy.

    "He bought a number of foods I thought were very low in nutrition," said
Linda Hendrickson of Southeast Portland, naming noodle soup and macaroni and
cheese. "I really felt he could have benefited from some education about
nutrition density."

    Hendrickson said the governor should have bought bulk grains instead of
processed and packaged foods. More than a dozen people who called or wrote
The Oregonian after seeing a story about the governor's shopping trip to a
Salem Fred Meyer had similar comments.

    But Kulongoski and several others who attended Friday's roundtable
discussion said it's not that easy. Often, the best foods are too expensive
for someone making do on food stamps, and the affordable items tend to be
high in fat and carbohydrates.

    Normally, "I have to have fresh produce," said Lisa Wenzlick, who
represents a group of Oregon churches that are battling the state's hunger
problem. But Wenzlick, who also is sticking to the food-stamp budget this
week, said she resorted to canned vegetables because they were cheaper.

    Patty Whitney-Wise, director of the Hunger Relief Task Force, said her
stomach hurt and her head went fuzzy because of the sudden diet change
required by slicing her food budget. "I was hungry all the time, but I
gained three pounds because of all those empty calories," she said.

    Also attending the discussion was Christina Sigman-Davenport, a state
employee who works in the food-stamp office and who has spent the past six
months on food stamps because her husband lost his job. She was featured
prominently in news stories about Kulongoski's food-stamp challenge because
she accompanied him on his shopping trip and gave him advice on what to buy.

    Many readers questioned how a state employee who makes more than $33,000
a year could qualify for food stamps. Sigman-Davenport said she qualified
for temporary assistance because of her income level and her three children,
including one who is disabled.

    Asked if state workers are underpaid if they qualify for food stamps,
Kulongoski said that's not the issue.

    "This is a classic example of a two-parent family, who work hard, try to
get ahead and achieve the American dream," Kulongoski said. "But sometimes
fate deals you a very bad hand."

    Kulongoski said he may try the challenge again next year and try to
expand the number of people who take it. He doesn't necessarily look forward
to it, however.

    "It's been a surprise to me," he said, "how hard it is to do this."

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